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TOPIC: Bank of America doesn't want firearms business anymore

Bank of America doesn't want firearms business anymore 1 year 3 weeks ago #1

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Interesting read... I sure won't be doing any business with Bank of America. Thanks for sharing Nathan!
McMillan Fiberglass Stocks, McMillan Firearms Manufacturing, McMillan Group International have been collectively banking with Bank of America for 12 years. Today Mr. Ray Fox, Senior Vice President, Market Manager, Business Banking, Global Commercial Banking came to my office. He scheduled the meeting as an “account analysis” meeting in order to evaluate the two lines of credit we have with them. He spent 5 minutes talking about how McMillan has changed in the last 5 years and have become more of a firearms manufacturer than a supplier of accessories.
At this point I interrupted him and asked “Can I possible save you some time so that you don’t waste your breath? What you are going to tell me is that because we are in the firearms manufacturing business you no longer what my business.”
“That is correct” he says.
I replied “That is okay, we will move our accounts as soon as possible. We can find a 2nd Amendment friendly bank that will be glad to have our business. You won’t mind if I tell the NRA, SCI and everyone one I know that BofA is not firearms industry friendly?”
“You have to do what you must” he said.
“So you are telling me this is a politically motivated decision, is that right?”
Mr Fox confirmed that it was. At which point I told him that the meeting was over and there was nothing let for him to say.

I think it is import for all Americans who believe in and support our 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms should know when a business does not support these rights. What you do with that knowledge is up to you. When I don’t agree with a business’ political position I can not in good conscience support them. We will soon no longer be accepting Bank of America credit cards as payment for our products.

Kelly D McMillan
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McMillan Group International, LLC
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www.mcmillanusa.com

On 4/19, word spread that BoA fired one of their customers, McMillan Group Int'l.

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Re: Bank of America doesn't want firearms business anymore 1 year 3 weeks ago #2

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BofA addressed this on their FB page:
We want to let you know that we hear your comments and questions regarding one of our customers. While we cannot discuss the details of any individual client we work with, we can assure you the allegations being made here are completely false. Bank of America does not have a policy that prohibits us from banking clients in this industry. In fact, we have numerous, longstanding customers in the industry.

We are also extremely proud of our support of the US military and reject any assertion to the contrary. We count as clients many companies that provide for our nation's defense. We employ thousands of veterans, Guardsmen, and Reservists, and plan to increase our hiring this year.

Rather vague, IMHO.

While researching the validity of the charges against BofA, I came across some interesting facts:
Bank of America was the recipient of well over 100 billion dollars in federal money. They are also one of just two vendors processing payments for Barack Obama’s 2012 presidential campaign, employing a system that disables safeguards against illegal foreign donations. Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte, North Carolina, is the site of the Democratic Nation Convention in September.

This is at least the third time Bank of America has implemented a discriminatory policy against gun manufacturers. In early 2001, a scandal erupted over the bank’s attempt to discriminate against another Arizona-based company. The resulting public outrage forced a reversal of the policy.

In 2010, Bank of America attempted a similar action, and was again forced to “clarify” their position:

Bank of America does not have a corporate-wide policy to deny banking services solely on the applicant’s involvement in the firearms industry.
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Re: Bank of America doesn't want firearms business anymore 1 year 3 weeks ago #3

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That is interesting.

If anything is going to get done, this has to be the year to do it.

As they say, get er done.

As far as BOA, I recall one LGS who uses them to buy something once. I would like that LGS and any others to consider moving towards a Credit Union.
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Re: Bank of America doesn't want firearms business anymore 1 year 3 weeks ago #4

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RevNate wrote:
BofA addressed this on their FB page:
We want to let you know that we hear your comments and questions regarding one of our customers. While we cannot discuss the details of any individual client we work with, we can assure you the allegations being made here are completely false. Bank of America does not have a policy that prohibits us from banking clients in this industry. In fact, we have numerous, longstanding customers in the industry.

We are also extremely proud of our support of the US military and reject any assertion to the contrary. We count as clients many companies that provide for our nation's defense. We employ thousands of veterans, Guardsmen, and Reservists, and plan to increase our hiring this year.

Rather vague, IMHO.

While researching the validity of the charges against BofA, I came across some interesting facts:

I'm confused...what does supporting the military have to do with supporting the firearms industry and the 2nd amendment?
I'll can also tell you that (at least in AR Guard) we have moved our military travel cards from BoA to CitiBank in 2010 so...
I refuse to do any business with BoA.
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BofA notifies gun manufacurer to take their business elsewhere 11 months 1 week ago #5

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McMillian Group International (McMillan) was told by Bank of America (BofA) senior VP "to find a different business banking provider within six months." Although BofA states they do not have a written policy of refusing service to gun manufacturers Kelly McMillan posted the details on McMillan’s facebook page.
bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012/04/ban...-national-attention/
bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012/04/ban...find-another-banker/

According to his facebook page McMillan has found another bank that is "2nd Amendment friendly and financially sound as well as convenient". That bank has increased his lines of credit by 20% as well. www.facebook.com/McMillanGroupInternational?ref=ts

Many years ago (45) I had dealings with two BofA branches on military bases that resulted in my vowing to never deal with them again. Apparently it was a good choice.
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Re: BofA notifies gun manufacurer to take their business elsewhere 11 months 1 week ago #6

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Whoops. :dizzy: I failed to see the thread on this subject in the Off Topic area.
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Re: BofA notifies gun manufacurer to take their business elsewhere 11 months 1 week ago #7

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Chuck41 wrote:
Whoops. :dizzy: I failed to see the thread on this subject in the Off Topic area.
Chuck

No worries - merged the two threads.
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